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foreign policy chief is flying to kiev this week. as the cold closes in organizers need the crowd to stay on independent square. there may be safety in numbers. >> that is robben forest walker. >>> worsening smog in east china. smog conditions have closed several highways and grounded more than 20 flights for a short while. a lot of regions have been hit by heavy smog. environmental protection agency went to china to help out. >> it's more important than ever that we continue to work together. we know that pollution knows no boundaries, and we can be driven by our shared environmental challenges and priorities to layout a solid foundation and cooperation for the work ahead. >> she hopes the lessons learned here in the u.s. will serve as guidance for chinese officials work on its environment proble problems. >> reporter: if you just happened to book a flight you might want to call ahead before go to the airport. we have more. >> reporter: the arctic blasts now entering a second week is causing misery across the country. staying warm i
foreign policy chief is flying to kiev this week. as the cold closes in organizers need the crowd to stay on independent square. there may be safety in numbers. >> that is robben forest walker. >>> worsening smog in east china. smog conditions have closed several highways and grounded more than 20 flights for a short while. a lot of regions have been hit by heavy smog. environmental protection agency went to china to help out. >> it's more important than ever that we...
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. >> interestingly, on the political front, we know of course that the eu foreign policy chief, katherine ashton is due to arrive on tuesday. what doo does this signify? >> authorities show their strength on monday. but it is ahead of the possibility at least of further negotiation. and coincidentally, we heard the president yanukovych who, of course, these protestors want out and new elections taking place, has offered the possibility of talks. the opposition initially have said, we're not prepared to talk. when we're hemmed in by your riot police. but i think with katherine ashton's arrival, there is a possibility, at least account, that the -- at least, that the warg factions in this dispute might move towards talking to each other. that will certainly be her aim. and it's also, i think, although one can never be sure about these things, that while she is here, perhaps the authorities will not move against the protestors who are still camped out here, as we were saying, and also occupying city hall. >> they are camped out in what are freezing conditions. it's been snowing there for mos
. >> interestingly, on the political front, we know of course that the eu foreign policy chief, katherine ashton is due to arrive on tuesday. what doo does this signify? >> authorities show their strength on monday. but it is ahead of the possibility at least of further negotiation. and coincidentally, we heard the president yanukovych who, of course, these protestors want out and new elections taking place, has offered the possibility of talks. the opposition initially have said,...
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we have a new government in iran with a different type of foreign policy, a different approach of foreign policy. our tenant versus nos have not . he will insist on our rights. we will not compromise on the basic rights of our people. but the window of opportunity is a limited window. >> that was with iran's foreign minister. >>> alan gross was in north korea working on an internet project fo--incuba working on a. government. he was detained. libby casey has his story. >> alan gross' wife judy describes him as a man who wanted to help the world. >> he was very gregarious, very happy person, great personality, very, very warm. unfortunately, that's changed quite a bit in the past four years. people don't recognize him when they see pictures of him. >> decades of humanitarian work across the globe led the 60-year-old to cuba, the goal, setting up internet access for cuba's small jewish communities. now he languished in a jail cell. he has lost weight, his help, he feels like he has been forgotten and left to die. >> what could be worse than thinking your government isn't doing anything to b
we have a new government in iran with a different type of foreign policy, a different approach of foreign policy. our tenant versus nos have not . he will insist on our rights. we will not compromise on the basic rights of our people. but the window of opportunity is a limited window. >> that was with iran's foreign minister. >>> alan gross was in north korea working on an internet project fo--incuba working on a. government. he was detained. libby casey has his story. >>...
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anger against the authority is likely to fuel debate about the level of dizzy content among low paid foreign workers in this strictly governed city-state. comarls stratford,-- charles stratford, al jazeera. >>> next on al jazeera, we'll talk to a man who witnessed mandela's policies firsthand. the man known only as madiba. >> welcome back to al jazeera america. i'm del walters. time is ticking for congress. on a laundry list of items. including that new spending bill. the bill would avoid another government shutdown. the house is scheduled to close for christmas on friday. >>> central african republic, african force he will be air lifted by american forces, they will also air lift equipment into that country. sectarian violence has engulfed the central african republic since march. >>> preparations for nelson mandela's funeral are taking place in kunu, scheduled to stay place on sunday. >>> as the world leaders gather in south africa, many have extraordinary stories to share about nelson mandela. earlier, i talked to the former ambassador to south africa, delano lewis. first of all, your ref
anger against the authority is likely to fuel debate about the level of dizzy content among low paid foreign workers in this strictly governed city-state. comarls stratford,-- charles stratford, al jazeera. >>> next on al jazeera, we'll talk to a man who witnessed mandela's policies firsthand. the man known only as madiba. >> welcome back to al jazeera america. i'm del walters. time is ticking for congress. on a laundry list of items. including that new spending bill. the bill...
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>> he understood foreign policy issues very role with the good schooling yet developed an appreciation of how congress works. he spent 40 years there. and exactly the second u.s. senator to win the presidency before him it was of the warren harding 1920 and since then is barack obama 2008. that is not unnatural jumping off point but kennedy could use it to advance his ambition of. >> host: the book is jfk and the senate. [applause] thank you for that lovely introduction. and also for coming out on a school might. i know how hard it is to do that if you have kids or not. also for postdate this event i would like to make a quick plug if you have any changes in your pocket by a book to support your local independent bookstore.
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. >> talk about how nelson mandela influenced foreign state policy. >> an interesting thing is nelson mandela did not abandon friends. there's something i know, clinton talked about, he disagreed with nelson mandela on the issue of cuba and his relationship with fidel castro. nelson mandela did not forget his friends. they stood with him. making sure countries in africa could stand together and do what was in the best interests of their people, may not necessarily benefit all. all people around the planet knew that it is possible, that you can make the impossible possible. and that is what happened, and that is, to me, what his life embodied. >> that is why the world is remembering nelson mandela. >> thank you for your time today. >> thank you. >> today egyptian authorities released 21 women and girls sent to prison for protesting. they had been ordered to spend 11 years behind bars, but it caused widespread outrage. >> in syria new developments about a group of nuns in the hands of rebels. the human rights organization said they were taken after they overran a business. they were not
. >> talk about how nelson mandela influenced foreign state policy. >> an interesting thing is nelson mandela did not abandon friends. there's something i know, clinton talked about, he disagreed with nelson mandela on the issue of cuba and his relationship with fidel castro. nelson mandela did not forget his friends. they stood with him. making sure countries in africa could stand together and do what was in the best interests of their people, may not necessarily benefit all. all...
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we have a new government in iran with a different approach to foreign policy. they have not changed. we will insist on our rights. we will not negotiate or compromise on the rights of our people. we believe this can be addressed through constructive engagement. the window of opportunity is limited. >> israel is not impressed from comments from the iranian foreign minister. there's no shortage of finger pointing between the two countries. reaction from jerusalem, from nick schifrin. >> here in jerusalem the israelis are smarting over the terms and deal made with iran. israel tried privately and publicly to convince the u.s. not to make the deal. now it's trying to get the concessions it was trying to get earlier. they have four or five months to do that. earlier today i was talking to the spokeman for the foreign ministry and he described exactly what israel wants. >> the essentials is to dismantle capacity that iran can get for a peaceful program from abroad like other countries do. it will mean dismantling plutonium, it only serves for military purposes. it wi
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some foreign policy analysts make the case that because of iran's importance in this proxy conflict as you describe it, the u.s. should perhaps further in gauge iran as an ally in that region. >> one argument says that's exactly right, we ought to have the united states and the global super powers attempt to mad rate the actions of iran. the other side of the argument says iran since 1979, sings the iranian revolution is a revolutionary government has not deterred and will continue to export violence and terrorism in the only in the region, but in places such as south america, as well. one can only hope the united states can moderate their behavior, but that's going to take an act of diplomacy that i think so far has eluded this government. >> al-qaeda appears to be fighting more battleground in the middle east and a food hold, it seems again, even though the obama administration had talked about how much al-qaeda had been dismantled since the death of bin lad en, do americans need to worry now that al-qaeda does seem to be gaining ground in the middle east? >> i think the americans ou
some foreign policy analysts make the case that because of iran's importance in this proxy conflict as you describe it, the u.s. should perhaps further in gauge iran as an ally in that region. >> one argument says that's exactly right, we ought to have the united states and the global super powers attempt to mad rate the actions of iran. the other side of the argument says iran since 1979, sings the iranian revolution is a revolutionary government has not deterred and will continue to...
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to that foreign policy. roosevelt, pearl harbor was a godsend to him. i'm not suggesting for a second that he in any way engineered the surprise, but it allowed him to unify the country, you see, to fight world war ii. harry truman made the mistake of losing that consensus for the fight in korea, destroyed his presidency. johnson lost the consensus for the fighting in vietnam, destroyed his presidency. bush, domestic, weapons of mass destruction that weren't there. it undermined his leadership and left him with a terribly diminished popular support, including katrina and the economic downturn, you see. we talked to obama about this, and i said to him, mr. president, if you get into one of these wars without vital public commitment and consensus, it plays havoc with your domestic agenda because you lose your hold. you lose your credibility. remember johnson's credibility gap? how do you know when lending is telling you the truth? he begins to move his lips you know he is lying. [laughter] he didn't think it w
to that foreign policy. roosevelt, pearl harbor was a godsend to him. i'm not suggesting for a second that he in any way engineered the surprise, but it allowed him to unify the country, you see, to fight world war ii. harry truman made the mistake of losing that consensus for the fight in korea, destroyed his presidency. johnson lost the consensus for the fighting in vietnam, destroyed his presidency. bush, domestic, weapons of mass destruction that weren't there. it undermined his leadership...
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and the president's approval rating on foreign policy was 34%. this is not an expedient decision for the president. he believed we had to act. he also flipped the decision making process on its head. usually you move the decision up from the deputy and the principle of the president. this turned it upside down. the only principle that approved this is madeline, leon, and the nfc folk. not anybody else at the time. we dispatched them to go to the european with a different posture which called tell don't ask. and the posture was we're going to do this. with you or without you. and the europeans said with us. and -- a few weeks later he uponned it and what began was operation delivered force. 11 days of intensive bombing of syria. 3,000. 60 targets. at one point the u.n. asked us to pause the bombing. the bombing continued and after 11 days -- agree to ceasefire and two weeks later peace conference patterson air force base where whole brooke, and general and others an extraordinary brilliant negotiation hammered out what became the peace accord. so
and the president's approval rating on foreign policy was 34%. this is not an expedient decision for the president. he believed we had to act. he also flipped the decision making process on its head. usually you move the decision up from the deputy and the principle of the president. this turned it upside down. the only principle that approved this is madeline, leon, and the nfc folk. not anybody else at the time. we dispatched them to go to the european with a different posture which called...
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policy advisors as well as his defense minister as well as the economic affairs minister was also present in those talks, the two sides reaffirming their commitment to continue the strategic partnership between the united states and pakistan, however, the pakistan need was still concerned about the ongoing drone strikes in pakistan against where there is considerable anger now and most of the political parties that were blocking the nato supplies from going into afghanistan are still continuing with their protests. the americans would be concerned because they would be conducting a major logistic operation from withdrawing the hardware from the country and will be needing pakistans for the exercise and therefore there was a lot to talk about between washington and islamabad but the pakistans are trying to improve ties with u.s. and said high-level contacts between the two countries were helping matters. >> reporter: still ahead in sport we will have the latest from the series as australia continues dominance over england right after the break. ♪ consider this: the news of the day plus s
policy advisors as well as his defense minister as well as the economic affairs minister was also present in those talks, the two sides reaffirming their commitment to continue the strategic partnership between the united states and pakistan, however, the pakistan need was still concerned about the ongoing drone strikes in pakistan against where there is considerable anger now and most of the political parties that were blocking the nato supplies from going into afghanistan are still continuing...
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but so i would say labor law but also on foreign policy. i mean, he gave, i think, some really marvelous speeches on indochina, the french involvement in indochina, on algeria, the french involvement in algeria, on the whole battle with the soviet union and how the u.s. should try to emerge in the cold war. so he was interesting. he was a more compelling person than i expected, and, of course, had some great contemporaries. he worked with people like hubert humphrey, lyndon johnson, richard russell, it was a really interesting time with some great senators. >> so what was his relationship with lyndon johnson when they were both in the senate? >> it was a very wary one. in fact, i spent some time at the kennedy library, and his file is thick with letters to lyndon johnson asking for better committee assignments, because johnson was the senate democratic leader. kennedy was the more junior senator, so he was sending johnson a lot of letters asking for different committee assignments. johnson seemed to put them away, and at one point ted soren
but so i would say labor law but also on foreign policy. i mean, he gave, i think, some really marvelous speeches on indochina, the french involvement in indochina, on algeria, the french involvement in algeria, on the whole battle with the soviet union and how the u.s. should try to emerge in the cold war. so he was interesting. he was a more compelling person than i expected, and, of course, had some great contemporaries. he worked with people like hubert humphrey, lyndon johnson, richard...
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. >> investigators say the system take nature of human rights abuses in syria points to government policy. this is the first tile the u.n. has directly implicated the syrian president. more than 100,000 people have been killed in the conflict. >> secretary of state john kerry is meeting with nato foreign affairs ministers in brussels to discuss security in afghanistan. the nato combat mission ends in 2014. delaying the security deal could endanger millions of dollars in aid and foreign investments. >> now that healthcare.gov is running smoothly, the obama administration is back in sales mode, kicking off a campaign today to promote the affordable care act. the white house wants to point out the benefits of the law, planning to focus on a specific benefit each day. >> president obama promises that america will maintain its leader ship in the search for an aids cure. the president spoke to researchers and government health officials marking world aids day. >> president obama said $100 million will be redirected to a national institute of health project to fight aids. he also said that start
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nobody had overturned a presidential veto on foreign policy in the 20th century. you had 37 and 53 republicans, including richard lugar who is still there. mitch mcconnell who said he was in college during civil rights movement and then he was on the side of civil rights and then it got all complicated with affirmative action and bussing and sanctions he said made it all clear again. he stood up again against the president. i was covering the white house then and occasionally they would bring in small groups of reporters to chat with the president on the theor theory w each other. it was during this period the president said more black people drive and own cars in south africa than there are cars in the soviet union and to him that sort of rationalized, this was, you know, communism is the evil system. and you had po to do everything to stand up to communism. i remember clearly he reached for two cookies and said he had half a sandwich for lunch. pat buchanon was a speech writer in the white house then. i recalled this memory to him. he said he wrote that lean. he
nobody had overturned a presidential veto on foreign policy in the 20th century. you had 37 and 53 republicans, including richard lugar who is still there. mitch mcconnell who said he was in college during civil rights movement and then he was on the side of civil rights and then it got all complicated with affirmative action and bussing and sanctions he said made it all clear again. he stood up again against the president. i was covering the white house then and occasionally they would bring...
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foreign policy interest and the president's approval rating on foreign policy was 34%. this is not an expedient decision for the president. he believed that we had to act. it also flipped the decision-making process to up the deputies. this turned it upside down. he took it to the president and he decided it and moved it down to the principles. and i must say the only principles that approved this was matalin and leon and the folks. not anybody else at the time. he was working very hard with his military colleagues. we've been dispatched to tony to go to the europeans with a very different posture. the posture was we are going to do this with you or without you. and the europeans set with us. and so, but to most of the gene turned it down. a few weeks later he bombed sarajevo and 11 days of intense in bombing and 60 targets and at one point at the un asked us to pause the bombing and went back to melissa fetch and dick holbrook sent a classic message send bombs for peace. the bombing continued. and after 11 days, a valuable part of this team melissa fetch hired and then
foreign policy interest and the president's approval rating on foreign policy was 34%. this is not an expedient decision for the president. he believed that we had to act. it also flipped the decision-making process to up the deputies. this turned it upside down. he took it to the president and he decided it and moved it down to the principles. and i must say the only principles that approved this was matalin and leon and the folks. not anybody else at the time. he was working very hard with...
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i used to be a diehard but my priorities have changed seeing as how the country has changed foreign policy. i thought at least obama, even though i voted third party after ron paul and after what republicans did to ron paul, the convention was totally disgusting, i left the party -- the their priority neocons took over republican party, which is a jewish obama is still being andby the nose by netanyahu they run our congress and it is horrible. >> who do you think are the big ,nfluencers on this white house outside the political realm? rachel's point, they are in strong opposition with obama on the iran deal. whether or not in six months ago, where obama is on that deal, will in some ways reveal how much pressure is being from some pro-israel groups and the israeli government. governs in an insular way. that is a phrase used a lot. his own counsel. he listens to a small group of people. he pays attention to the democratic base. he has been raising a lot of money for midterm elections, which makes him responsive quite a bit to democratic concerns. he pays careful attention to israel and its
i used to be a diehard but my priorities have changed seeing as how the country has changed foreign policy. i thought at least obama, even though i voted third party after ron paul and after what republicans did to ron paul, the convention was totally disgusting, i left the party -- the their priority neocons took over republican party, which is a jewish obama is still being andby the nose by netanyahu they run our congress and it is horrible. >> who do you think are the big ,nfluencers...
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reagan when he said that foreign policy was, we win, you lose. i think at this point what's concerning me is in this deal, we lose, they win, and the rest of the world is put in jeopardy. and you made a great statement. not only is israel and iran a threat to israel, i've often heard, why do we worry about iran? that's another country. why do we need to get involved? because it is a direct and immediate threat to the u.s. as well. we have troops within missile range. we have troops that are in international waters, that would be -- could be literally affected by the military force in iran. i think those are issues that we've got to address, as we move forward. it's not something that we can just put in its little corner. iran in some ways is much different than north korea. with their assets and with their capabilities and we can't deny where they are in the world. and i think that's the concern that i have with this administration. that's why we're here tonight talking about this. and i want to discuss some more about this, but i will yield back
reagan when he said that foreign policy was, we win, you lose. i think at this point what's concerning me is in this deal, we lose, they win, and the rest of the world is put in jeopardy. and you made a great statement. not only is israel and iran a threat to israel, i've often heard, why do we worry about iran? that's another country. why do we need to get involved? because it is a direct and immediate threat to the u.s. as well. we have troops within missile range. we have troops that are in...
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america needs there. >> some predictions outside the world of politics and foreign policy. richard branson's prediction that 2014 is the year that for the first commercial space flight. >> you signing up, willie? >> no. i want to see how that one goes. >> he's planning to be on the first flight. >> of course. >> with his two children. >> do you think it will be first commercial space flight as richard branson indicates there might be in the coming year or what will happen first? first commercial space flight or the shuttle to boston will be on time? >> well both have been delayed. but first commercial space line as he calls it, he has very big ambitions for private space travel and putting increasing access to space and beyond that using that to improve life on earth and to, he thinks the space age will undergo a dynamic development much like the jet age in the last century. >> where does he plan to go. did he indicate? >> not very far. >> just around the block. >> around the block. but it is, actually -- private astronauts have been up in the past but as guests, high payin
america needs there. >> some predictions outside the world of politics and foreign policy. richard branson's prediction that 2014 is the year that for the first commercial space flight. >> you signing up, willie? >> no. i want to see how that one goes. >> he's planning to be on the first flight. >> of course. >> with his two children. >> do you think it will be first commercial space flight as richard branson indicates there might be in the coming year...
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obama's approval ratings are higher on the economy and foreign policy. overall, 55 percent of those surveyed still have a favorable view of the >> we have a cold front that has passed through the bay area. we have colder weather on the way. i will talk about the freeze watch the set to go into affect. align welcome back. the time is 8 2:00 p.m. 8:14 a.m.. and the lastest on the accident and death of fast and furious star paul walker. the los angeles county sheriff's office says there is no evidence of a second vehicle linked to the accident that killed the actor over the weekend. here's surveillance video of saturday's crash, courtesy of o-m-g insider. authorities say walker, and driver roger rodas, were killed immediately in the fiery crash. jim torp, a friend of walker, was among the witnesses and describes what happened leading up to the crash. >> the sad thing is set that went out for a drive for a couple of minutes. there are so many speculations about a drag racing and that never happens. when they passed me there were no cars next to them, in some
obama's approval ratings are higher on the economy and foreign policy. overall, 55 percent of those surveyed still have a favorable view of the >> we have a cold front that has passed through the bay area. we have colder weather on the way. i will talk about the freeze watch the set to go into affect. align welcome back. the time is 8 2:00 p.m. 8:14 a.m.. and the lastest on the accident and death of fast and furious star paul walker. the los angeles county sheriff's office says there is...
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now that they're at dhs, they can impose these ideas, these ideologies, these policies regardless of what congress does or does not do. >> we've got some of the details. you had written a column on this and you detailed each of them. michael salo in, and others. because everybody has got a very detailed biography, how would you summarize these people? >> they're all on the far left open border side of the equation. look at jennifer lee. when she was at a pro-open borders group, they actually published a pamphlet titled "what to do in the event of a raid." it was given to illegal aliens to help them if they were raided. look at morera wee. she wrote articles attacking dhs before she went to work for dhs because dhs, she was gathering fingerprint data from people they caught crossing the border so they couldn't keep doing it over and over again. she was against that. it's crazy stuff and now they're in the government enforcing immigration law. >> unlike a politician, politicians can get elected out of office. booted out by the people. but these folks are going to be career lawyers in t
now that they're at dhs, they can impose these ideas, these ideologies, these policies regardless of what congress does or does not do. >> we've got some of the details. you had written a column on this and you detailed each of them. michael salo in, and others. because everybody has got a very detailed biography, how would you summarize these people? >> they're all on the far left open border side of the equation. look at jennifer lee. when she was at a pro-open borders group, they...
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foreign policy is the gentlelady from florida, former chairman of the foreign affairs committee, to whom i'd yield now, ms. ileana ros-lehtinen. ms. ros-lehtinen: thank you so much, mr. speaker. i want to thank mr. roskam for his leadership in spear heading this discussion on the dangers of last month's interim nuclear agreement deal with iran. as we've had more time to dissect this deal, it is becoming clearer and clearer that despite secretary kerry's claim that no deal is better than a bad deal, we've been had. in exchange for the one thing that iran so desperately needs, sanctions relief to jump-start its flailing economy, the administration received nothing more than window dressing to stop iran's nuclear program. this interim deal is the unraveling of the sanctions policy that was so painstakingly crafted over the past 10 years. and it was aimed at bringing iran's nuclear program to an end. we've already seen other nations eager to get back into the iranian market, and it will now be nearly impossible to stop the cash infusion into the iranian regime. how can we stop this? this dea
foreign policy is the gentlelady from florida, former chairman of the foreign affairs committee, to whom i'd yield now, ms. ileana ros-lehtinen. ms. ros-lehtinen: thank you so much, mr. speaker. i want to thank mr. roskam for his leadership in spear heading this discussion on the dangers of last month's interim nuclear agreement deal with iran. as we've had more time to dissect this deal, it is becoming clearer and clearer that despite secretary kerry's claim that no deal is better than a bad...
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strenuously, without mincing words but still maintained relationships. >> he did that with these foreign leaders we're talking about. he got many people upset by keeping friendships with castro, gadhafi. but it goes back to what he did. if he could forgive and understand the story of the other when it came to the white oppressors of the apartheid regime, he could certainly do it with the other leaders of those who stood behind him. that is what he's all about. that's why people -- him because of his ability for personal forgiveness. very important conflicts have been resolved, for instance, the northern ireland conflict, for instance, others, which have taken a lot of their inspiration from mandela. >> i think i can add to that. one example christiane and i were talking about it off air, he used these different leaders and his relationship with these people for diplomacy, world diplomacy. take the lockerbie bombing, for example. there was huge pressure on moammar gadhafi to hand over the suspects. he wouldn't do it. mandela flew to libya, convinced him to hand over the suspects as long a
strenuously, without mincing words but still maintained relationships. >> he did that with these foreign leaders we're talking about. he got many people upset by keeping friendships with castro, gadhafi. but it goes back to what he did. if he could forgive and understand the story of the other when it came to the white oppressors of the apartheid regime, he could certainly do it with the other leaders of those who stood behind him. that is what he's all about. that's why people -- him...